Lista dei corrispettivi

Che ne dite di fare una lista con i corrispettivi pro?
Per esempio:

1. Scratch-x = M105 (invento)
2. Color-x = M210
etcc

Così chi è meno avvezzo fà presto a riconoscere i vari prodotti...

tnx

Ciao absolute, l'idea non è affato male e può aiutare molti nella scelta. non sempre i prodotti sono speculari per caratteristiche tecniche, però c'è sempre l'equivalente.
si può cominciare a fare una lista dei prodotti consumer.

Grazie mille!!

Magari Dove non c'è l'equivalente si può posizionare dove è più simile ad un prodotto...

fammi sapere quando avrai finito... così saprò cosa prendere..

grazie ancora...

Grazie a te per l'idea!

anto oltre ad una lista dei corrispettivi meg si potrebbe fare una lista per iprodotti 3m perchè almeno io non ci capisco nulla ci sono tutti quei tappi colorati magari con i vari tamponi 3m che si possono abbinare...... e poi in futuro si potrebbe fare uno schema con tutti i prodotti che proponi in base al grado di abrasione che ne dici esagero come sempre?????

l'idea di base è buona ma considera che oltre al diverso taglio dei prodotti fa molto anche la tecnologia adottata e la filosofia aziendale. per cui non sempre è possibile confrontare in una scala di taglio tutti i prodotti.

anto una cosa del genere c'è pure su autogeek ..... e cmq sarebbe una cosa a grandi linee... anto ma quella di 3m ???

per il 3m è semplice, tappo verde è un compound credo con meno taglio del #105 a parità di utilizzo, il tappo giallo è vicino all'#83 e il tappo blu è vicino all'#80 come taglio ma credo che su vernici moderne dia una migliore finitura ( minore però credo del #205), con rotativa.
Questo a grandi linee, perchè come dice Antonio è difficile confrontare i prodotti, magari uno va meglio su una vernice uno su un'altro e poi non conta solo il prodotto ma come viene utilizzato.

grazie mi sembra di averne visto uno con tappo bianco??

quella è una linea più vecchia, oggi sono (in ordine di taglio) verde, giallo, blu ed il tuo amato polish rosa.

Si la linea vecchia era in ordine bianco, nero ,celeste.
Ho a casa il nero, come grado di abrasione sotto al giallo della nuova linea, che a macchina ho utilizzato poco perchè non garantisce il risultato dei nuovi prodotti, ma a mano è davvero efficace devo dire, probabilmente perchè gli abrasivi utilizzati nei vecchi prodotti sono meno duri quindi più facilmente lavorabili a mano.

Così spannometricamente, lo Scratch-X e il Color-X a cosa corrispondono?

http://lacuradellauto.forumattivo.com/l-arte-della-lucidatura-f7/color-x-meguiars-t37.htm

1Z --- Einszett Products
1ZCP --- Einszett Cockpit Premium, Eimann Fabrik Clear Pearl Detail Spray
1ZMP --- Einszett Metallic Polish - Machine Polish
3MFI --- 3M Finesse-It products
3MPI --- 3M Perfect-It products
3MPIIIFG --- 3M Perfect-It III Finishing Glaze
3MPIIIMG --- 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze
3MPIIRC --- 3M Perfect-It II Rubbing Compound
3M UF - 3M Ultra Fina Polish
4* --- Four Star Products
4 in 1 (or 4-in-1) --- Detailer's Pride Four-In-One Rinse-Less Wash & Shine
21 --- Meguiars Synthetic Sealant
101 --- Duragloss PC (Polish & Cleaner)
104 --- Duragloss PW (Paste Wax)
105 --- Duragloss TPP (Total Performance Polish)
106FF --- Menzerna Polish
108 --- "Top Kote" RVL Poly Protectant - Anti-Static
111 --- Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish)
118 --- Exterior Shampoo Concentrate + pH Neutralizer
146 --- Finish Restorer Poly Wipe Spray Detailer - Anti-Static
215 --- Ultra All-In-One - Cleaner • Polish • Sealant (This used to be called 185)
216 --- Poly Wipe FX-Wet & Slick - Glaze • Sealant
217 --- FX-Quick Gloss - Polish • Glaze • Sealant - Anti-Static
218 --- Poly Wipe Sealant Conditioner (Anti-Static)
303 --- 303 Aerospace Protectant
303 --- Foam Pad Poly-Glaze
330 --- Mini - Buff-Wax Polish
357 --- Hi-Temp Heavy Cut Power Leveller
360 --- Medium Duty Micro-Cut Compound
425 --- Ultra Slick Poly Wipe Spray Detailer - Anti-Static
601 --- Duragloss PBA (Polish Bonding Agent)
652 --- Duragloss PC-No.2 (Buffing & Polishing Cleaner)
671 --- Duragloss SMR (Swirl Mark Remover)
921 --- Duragloss FC (Fast Clean & Shine)
951 --- Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish)
1000P --- Hi Temp Synthetic Paste Wax
111 --- Soil & Coating Remover / Wax & Detail Pre-Cleaner
2180 --- Ultra Poly Wipe Sealant (Anti-Static)
2685 --- Pink Wax - Carnauba / Polymer
7336 --- Porter-Cable Model Number
7424 --- Porter-Cable Model Number
#00 --- Meguiar's Hi-Tech Wash
#1 --- Meguiar's Medium-Cut Cleaner
#2 --- Meguiar's Fine-Cut Cleaner
#3 --- Meguiar's Machine Glaze
#4 --- Meguiar's Heavy-Cut Cleaner
#5 --- Meguiar's New Car Glaze
#6 --- Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax
#7 --- Meguiar's Show Car Glaze
#9 --- Meguiar's Swirl Remover 2.0
#10 --- Meguiar's Clear Plastic Polish
#16 --- Meguiar's Professional Paste Wax
#17 --- Meguiar's Clear Plastic Cleaner
#18 --- Meguiar's Clear Plastic Detailer
#20 --- Meguiar's Polymer Sealant
#21 --- Meguiar’s Synthetic Sealant
#26 --- Meguiar's Hi-Tech Yellow Wax
#34 --- Meguiar's Final Inspection
#36 --- Meguiar's Hi-Tech Cleaner
#38 --- Meguiar's Tire & Trim Dressing Gel
#39 --- Meguiar's Heavy Duty Vinyl Cleaner
#40 --- Meguiar's Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner/Conditioner
#62 --- Meguiar's Car Wash Shampoo and Conditioner
#66 --- Meguiar's Quick Detailer
#80 --- Meguiar's Speed Glaze
#81 --- Meguiar's Body Shop Professional Hand Polish
#82 --- Meguiar's Body Shop Professional Swirl Free Polish
#83 --- Meguiar's Dual Action Cleaner/Polish
#84 --- Meguiar's Compound Power Cleaner
#85 --- Meguiar's Diamond Cut Compound
#96 --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Leather Cleaner
#97 --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner
#98 --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Polish
A2Z --- Eagle One (EO) A2Z All Wheel Cleaner
ABC --- Auto-Ints ABC 3 Step Paint Decontamination Wash System
AFAIK --- As Far As I Know
AG --- AutoGlym
AG0---- AutoGeek Online (forum)
KAIO --- Klasse All-In-One
AJ --- Jeff's Werkstatt Acyrlic Jett
AJT --- Jeff's Werkstatt Acrylic Jett Trigger
APC --- All Purpose Cleaner
APC+ --- Meguiar's All Purpose Cleaner Plus
ARO --- Amazing Roll Off
A/W --- 50/50 - Alcohol/Water mixture
AW --- Aqua Wax
AW --- Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish)
AW --- 50/50 - Alcohol/Water mixture
AZ --- AutoZone
BA --- Black Again
BBT --- Big Blue Towel (MF)
BCS --- P21S Bodywork Conditioning Shampoo
BF --- BLACKFIRE Products
BF II --- BLACKFIRE Reformulated Detailing Product
BHB --- Boar's Hair Brush
BM --- Black Magic Products
BnB --- Poor Boy's Bold And Bright
BSP --- Meguiar's Body Shop Professional products
CB --- Clay Bar
CBT --- Autopia Concours Buffing Towel
CCD --- California Car Duster
CD --- California Car Duster
CDB --- California Dry Blade
CG --- Crystal Guard Sealant
CG --- Chemical Guys
CJ --- Jeff's Werkstatt Carnuba Jett
CK --- ClearKote Products
CM --- Clay Magic
CM --- Crystal Mist
CMA --- Classic Motoring Accessories
CMW --- Clearkote Carnuba Moose Wax
CP --- Einszett Cockpit Premium, Eimann Fabrik Clear Pearl Detail Spray
CT --- Cotton Towel
CW --- Cleaner Wax
CWB --- California Water Blade
DACP --- Meguiar's #83 Dual Action Cleaner/Polish
DC --- Digital Camera, Meguiar's Deep Crystal System
DG --- Duragloss Products
DP --- Detailer's Pride Brand
DWG--- Danase Wet Glaze
EF --- Eimann Fabrik Products
EFBO --- Eimann Fabrik Black Opal
EFCC --- Eimann Fabrik Carpet Cleaner
EFCP --- Eimann Fabrik Clear Pearl Instant Detailer
EFCV --- Eimann Fabrik Clear Vision
EFHI --- Eimann Fabrik High Intensity Cleaner
EFPW --- Eimann Fabrik Power Wash Shampoo
EFSR --- Eimann Fabrik Spot Remover
EFTR --- Eimann Fabrik Tar Remover
EG --- Zymol Estate Glaze (Concours And Above)
EK --- Meguiar's Engine Kote
EO --- Eagle One products
EOSR --- Eagle One Scratch Remover
EOWS --- Eagle One Wipe n Shine (QD)
EX --- Poorboy's World EX Sealant with Carnuba
EX-P --- Poorboy's World EX Pure Sealant
FB --- Forever Black products
FC --- Duragloss FC (Fast Clean & Shine)
FC --- Fine Cut (Compound)
FCC --- Fine Cut (Compound)
FCS --- Duragloss FC (Fast Clean & Shine)
FG --- 3M Perfect-It III Finishing Glaze
FI --- Meguiar's Final Inspection Quick Detailer
FI-II --- 3M Finesse-It products
FK --- Finish Kare Products
FK1 --- Finish Kare Products
FK425 --- Finish Kare Quick Detailer
FMJ --- Menzerna Full Molecular Jacket Paint Protectant
FP --- Menzerna Final Polish
FPII --- Menzerna Final Polish II
FS --- Four Star Products
FX --- Mothers FX range
FX-100 --- Ultra Spray Glaze • Sealant
G100 --- PC 7424 (Meguiar's Version)
GEPC --- P21S Gloss-enhancing Paintwork Cleanser
GEPC --- P21S Gloss-Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser
GW --- Einszett Glanz Wax
HG --- Hand Glaze
HGAS --- Menzerna High Gloss Acrylic Shield
HI --- Eimann Fabrik High Intensity Cleaner
HIC --- Eimann Fabrik High Intensity Cleaner
HT --- Hi-Temp Products
HTH --- Hope this helps
HTYW --- Meguiar's #26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax
HP --- Meguiar's Body Shop Professional Hand Polish
IA --- Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol
IG --- Stoner's Invisible Glass
IHG --- 3M Imperial Hand Glaze
IIRC --- If I Recall Correctly
IMHO --- In My Humble Opinion
IMO --- In My Opinion
IP --- Menzerna Intensive Polish
IP --- Meznerna Intensive Polish
IPA --- Isopropyl Alcohol
ISA --- Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol
ISO --- In Search Of / I seek Out
JW --- Jeff's Werkstatt
KSBF --- Koala Soft Buffing Towel
KSG --- Klasse Sealant Glaze
LC --- Lake Country (Pad manufacturer)
LC --- Leather Conditioner
LG --- Liquid Glass
LOL --- Laughing Out Loud
LS --- Pinnacle Liquid Souverän wax
LSP --- Last Step Product
LV --- Lexol Vinylex
M21 --- Meguiar's Synthetic Sealant
MCME --- Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
MDC --- Meguiar's Deep Crystal Products
Megs --- Meguiar's Products
Meg's --- Meguiar's Products
Meguiar's #00 --- Hi-Tech Wash
Meguiar's #1 --- Medium-Cut Cleaner
Meguiar's #2 --- Fine-Cut Cleaner
Meguiar's #3 --- Machine Glaze
Meguiar's #4 --- Heavy-Cut Cleaner
Meguiar's #5 --- New Car Glaze
Meguiar's #6 --- Cleaner/Wax
Meguiar's #7 --- Show Car Glaze
Meguiar's #9 --- Swirl remover 2.0
Meguiar's #10 --- Clear Plastic Polish
Meguiar's #16 --- Professional Paste Wax
Meguiar's #17 --- Clear Plastic Cleaner
Meguiar's #18 --- Clear Plastic Detailer
Meguiar's #20 --- Polymer Sealant
Meguiar’s #21 --- Meguiar’s Synthetic Sealant
Meguiar's #26 --- Hi-Tech Yellow Wax
Meguiar's #34 --- Final Inspection Quick Detailer Spray
Meguiar's #36 --- Hi-Tech Cleaner
Meguiar's #39 --- Heavy Duty Vinyl Cleaner
Meguiar's #40 --- Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner/Conditioner
Meguiar's #62 --- Car Wash Shampoo and Conditioner
Meguiar's #66 --- Quick Detailer
Meguiar's #80 --- Speed Glaze
Meguiar's #81 --- Body Shop Professional Hand Polish
Meguiar's #82 --- Body Shop Professional Swirl Free Polish
Meguiar's #83 --- Dual Action Cleaner/Polish
Meguiar's #84 --- Compound Power Cleaner
Meguiar's #85 --- Diamond Cut Compound
Meguiar's #96 --- Medallion Premium Leather Cleaner
Meguiar's #97 --- Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner
Meguiar's #98 --- Medallion Premium Paint Protection
MF --- Micro-Fiber or Micro Fiber Towel
MG --- 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze
MGC --- Meguiar's Gold Class products
MP --- Machine Polish, Einszett Metallic Polish
MPLC --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Leather Cleaner
MPP --- Mothers PowerPolish
MPPC --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner
MPPP --- Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Protection
MSG --- Meguiar's Speed Glaze
MSLT --- Stoner's More Shine Less Time spray
MT --- Microfiber Towel
MW --- ClearKote Moose Wax
NB --- Nattys Blue
No. 73 --- Collinite Paste Sapphire Auto Wax
No. 476s --- Collinite Super Doublecoat Auto Wax
No. 840 --- Collinite Sapphire Prewax Cleaner
No. 845 --- Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax
No. 855 --- Collinite Leather and Vinyl Treatment
No. 915 --- Collinite Marque D'Elegance
No. ss-126 --- Collinite Liquid Sapphire Auto Wax
ND --- Nevr Dull Metal Wad Polish
NXT --- Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax
OB --- Orbital Buffer
OC --- Optimum Compound
OCW --- Optimum Car Wax
OG --- One Grand Products
OGBW --- One Grand Blitz Wax
OGOHG --- One Grand Omega Hand Glaze
OGSO --- One Grand Show Off Instant Detailer
OHC --- Optimum Hyper Compound
ONR --- Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine
ONR --- Optimum No Rinse
OP --- Optimum Polish
OPS --- Optimum Poli-Seal
OS --- Optimum Opti-Seal
OTC --- Over The Counter
P21S --- P21S Concours Carnauba Wax
PB --- Peanut Butter
PB --- Pep Boys
PB --- Poorboy's Brand
PBS --- Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo
PC --- Porter-Cable Orbital Buffer 7424 or 7336
PCM --- Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detailing Spray
PCW --- P21S Concours-Look Carnauba Wax
PD --- CG Pro Detailer
PG --- Menzerna Power Gloss
PI II --- 3M Perfect-It II products
PI III --- 3M Perfect-It III products
PI3 --- 3M Perfect-It III products
PITA --- Pain In The "Back Side"
PM --- Private Message
PP --- Einszett Paint Polish
PPCL --- Pinnacle Paint Cleaning Lotion
PPG --- Pinnacle Paste Glaze
PS --- Pinnacle Souverän Paste Wax
PSS --- DP Premium Surface Shield
PSS --- Detailer's Pride Premium Surface Shield Paint Sealant
PUPP --- Platinum Ultimate Paint Protection
PW --- Poorboy's World Products
PW --- Pink Wax - Carnauba / Polymer
PW+ --- Eimann Fabrik Power Wash +
PwC --- Poorboys Polish with Carnuba
QD --- Quick Detailer (You guess what brand)
QD+ --- Poorboy's World Quick Detailer Plus spray
QEW --- Protect All Quick & Easy Wash
QS --- ClearKote Quik Shine Detail Spray
QW --- Meguiar's Quick Wax
RC --- Rubbing Compound
RC --- 3M Perfect-It II Rubbing Compound
RIDS --- Random Isolated Deep Scratches
RMG --- Clearkote Red Moose Machine Glaze
RO --- Random Orbital Buffer
ROB --- Random Orbital Buffer
ROTFLMAO --- Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My A$$ Off
RV --- Fieldcrest Royal Velvet Cotton Towel
SC--- Surf City
S&G --- PB Spray and Gloss
S&W (NOT SW) --- PB Spray and Wipe
S100 --- S100 Carnauba Paste Wax
SCW --- 3M Perfect It Show Car Wax
SEC --- S100 Shine-Enhancing Cleanser
SEPC --- S100 Shine-Enhancing Cleanser
SFP --- Meguiar's #82 Body Shop Professional Swirl Free Polish
SG --- Klasse Sealant Glaze
SIG --- Stoners Invisible Glass
SIP --- Menzerna Super Intensive Polish
SM2.0 --- Meguiar's #9 Swirl Remover 2
SMR --- Swirl Mark Remover - (You guess what brand)
SS --- Saddle Soap
SS&S --- PB Super Slick and Suds
SSB --- Stoner Speed Bead
SSR1 --- Poorboy's World Super Swirl Remover Light Abrasive
SSR2 --- Poorboy's World Super Swirl Remover Medium Abrasive
SSR3 --- Poorboy's World Super Swirl Remover Heavy Duty Compound
SSS --- DP Spray Surface Shield
SW --- Poorboy's World Spray and Wipe
SW --- CG Speed Wipe
TF --- Einszett Tiefenpfleger
TS --- Tire Swipe Foam pad
TW --- Turtle Wax Products
UCC = Presta Ultra Cutting Crème
UCCL = Presta Ultra Cutting Crème light
TWPUG --- Turtle Wax Platinum Ultra Gloss
UDM --- Ultimate Detailing Machine
UDSP --- Ultima Detail Spray Plus
UDT --- Autopia Ultimate Detailing Towel
UEPCS --- Ultima Elastrofoam Paint Cleaning System
UIGP --- Ultima Interior Guard Plus
UISG --- Ultima Interior Shampoo Gel
UP --- Einszett Ultra Paint Polish
UPC --- Platinum Ultimate Paint Pre-Cleaner
UPCSK --- Ultima Paint Care Sampler Kit
UPGP --- Ultima Paint Guard Plus
UPGW --- Ultima Paint Guard Wash
UPP --- Platinum Ultimate Paint Protection
UPP --- Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection
UPPP --- Ultima Paint Prep Plus
UQD --- Meguiar’s Ultimate Quick Detailer
UTTGP --- Ultima Tire & Trim Guard Plus
UV --- Ultraviolet Light
UPW --- Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer
VM --- ClearKote Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze
VMW --- ClearKote Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze
VNB --- Vac n Blow Vacuum
VW --- Victoria Wax
WG --- Wolfgang Car Care Products
WM --- Wash Mitt
WS --- Water Sprite towel
WW --- Waffle Weave MF towel
WWB --- P21S Windshield Wash Booster
YMMV --- Your Mileage May Vary
Z --- Zaino Bros. Products
Z1 --- Zaino Show Car Polish Lok
Z2 --- Zaino Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Finishes
Z3 --- Zaino Show Car Polish for Regular Paint
Z5 --- Zaino Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches
Z6 --- Zaino Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray
Z7 --- Zaino Show Car Wash
Z8 --- Zaino Grand Finale
Z9 --- Zaino Leather Soft Spray Cleaner
Z10 --- Zaino Leather In A Bottle
Z12 --- Zaino Clear-View Glass Polish
Z14 --- Zaino Plastic Magic Cleaner & Polish
Z16 --- Zaino Perfect Tire Gloss
Z18 --- Zaino ClayBar
ZCS --- Zaino Clear Seal
ZFX --- Zaino Flash Cure Accelerator Additive For Z2, Z3, Z5

da conoscere a memoria

copiata da autopia?

no autopia nn mi piace

si si vede, sei un tipo da Detailing Bliss da come parli...

molto di + detailing world e detailin university

detailing world è un'ottima scuola...

Sempre copiato rimane....se dobbiamo limitarci a copiare allora non ha senso scrivere, è stato già scritto di tutto e di più, basterebbe dare qualche link.... ma questo forum vuole introdurre il car detailing in Italia e far capire, magari servendosi delle proprie esperienze.
Fare liste e dire questo è il migliore non ci serve. Se non è stato fatto fin'ora questo è perchè c'è un motivo ed è quello che ti ho spiegato, ben venga se c'è qualche appassionato che aiuta a far crescere il forum ma copia-incolla no grazie.

DSW ha scritto:Sempre copiato rimane....se dobbiamo limitarci a copiare allora non ha senso scrivere, è stato già scritto di tutto e di più, basterebbe dare qualche link.... ma questo forum vuole introdurre il car detailing in Italia e far capire, magari servendosi delle proprie esperienze.
Fare liste e dire questo è il migliore non ci serve. Se non è stato fatto fin'ora questo è perchè c'è un motivo ed è quello che ti ho spiegato, ben venga se c'è qualche appassionato che aiuta a far crescere il forum ma copia-incolla no grazie.

da una parte ti do ragione ma cosi' se tu vai su un altro sito inglese-americano-tedesco o quello ke vuoi hai sempre la stessa abbreviazione e quindi alla fine capisci lo stesso tutto li...se qua dai un nome molto diverso e vai su un sito estero dove si utilizzano solamente abbreviazioni la cosa diventa difficile

Non mi riferivo in modo specifico alla lista che va anche bene, ma dicevo in generale come approccio al forum.

bè si, sono sigle di uso comune che però molti non capiscono. questa lista è una risposta. tuttavia andrebbe aggiornata perchè occhio e croce dovrebbe risalire ad un anno e mezzo fa...

quella lista è vecchia ...risale a 3-4 anni fa (fatta da Autopia e poi copiata dagli altri siti) e buona parte dei prodotti non si usano nemmeno più, andrebbe riscritta completamente, perchè molte delle abbreviazioni che trovi ora, non ci sono, e quelle che ci sono non li troverai mai.

ecco spiegato l'arcano...